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Interview with Silvia Bächli

Bence Kala

I have long been inspired by Silvia Bächli’s loose lines and airy spatial constructions. In June 2024, I travelled to Winterthur for an exhibition of the Swiss artist from Stuttgart, where I had the opportunity to spend an extended period due to a scholarship.

Bächli is a key figure in contemporary drawing — her work has been featured in several recent publications on trends in present-day drawing practices. Her exhibition They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? was held at Kunst Museum Winterthur, and was accessible through the rooms of the institution’s twentieth-century collection: works of art by fantastic modernist predecessors such as Giorgio Morandi, Pierre Bonnard, Paul Klee and Méret Oppenheim. These masterpieces engaged in vivid dialogue with Bächli’s works, which were installed in the newest part of the institution designed by the architects Anette Gigon and Mark Guyer; a monumental museum space that evokes modernist splendour and clarity. Bächli’s works seemed to become part of the very fabric of the architectural site.

The exhibition had the richness of a retrospective, covering Bächli’s entire career, from her early black-and-white drawings that orbit around the topic of the body to her recent ensembles, the so-called Farbfelds, which consist typically of either two or four sheets of paper and operate with expansive fields of colour. The heart of the exhibition was the room where pictures were on display from 1983 to 2003, strictly one from each year — a space that covered a twenty-year long period of Bächli’s oeuvre from the beginning, drawing attention to both the provisionality and the fragmentary nature of selection processes.

The day after the exhibition, I travelled to Basel to meet the artist in person. The following dialogue is based on our conversation, which took place in the artist’s studio.

[1] Silvia Bächli’s exhibition ‘far apart – close together’ at the Kunstmuseum St.Gallen was open to the public from 11 February to 13 May 2012.

BK: Your exhibition was titled They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? Could you explain the title’s significance? Why did you choose it?

Silvia Bächli: My individual drawings are rarely given titles — I save this difficult search for entire exhibitions. When looking for titles, I like to read texts, hoping to find the right combination of words. In this case, I found two lines from Elizabeth Bishop’s “Poem” — I immediately knew this had to be it. It describes the way in which my work is created.

BK: Did you have any contact with Winterthur before the exhibition? What do you think of this institution?

SB: For years, Kunst Museum Winterthur has been one of the places where I regularly visit the exhibitions. Konrad Bitterli has been the director of the museum for a few years now — I have known him for a long time. When he was still a curator at the Kunstmuseum St. Gallen, we worked on my exhibition far apart close together (2012). [1]The nine spaces in Winterthur — built 25 years ago as a temporary structure by the architects Gigon/Gyer — are the most beautiful museum spaces I know. Simple, clear… What a pleasure it was when Konrad Bitterli invited me!

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Silvia Bächli: Untitled ╱ 2022 ╱ gouache on paper ╱ 144×102 cm ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

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Silvia Bächli: From Lidschlag ╱ 1983 ╱ oil pastel on paper ╱ 25.2×36.8 cm ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

 

Silvia Bächli: Untitled ╱ 2022 ╱ gouache on paper ╱ 144×102 cm ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

Silvia Bächli: Untitled ╱ 2021 ╱ pencil and gouache on paper ╱ 204×144 cm ╱ Room 8 ╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

BK: Walking through Kunst Museum Winterthur’s rooms of twentieth-century art (e.g., artworks by Hans Arp, Paul Klee, Jo Baer and Kurt Schwitters) felt like a warming up before entering your temporary exhibition. Is there a particular piece from this collection that inspires you?

SB: In Winterthur, when you come to the first floor, there is a Morandi room, and later in your walk through the museum, the works from Sophie Taeuber-Arp would be an obvious choice for me.

BK: Your paintings have become more colourful since your exhibition at the Venice Biennale[2] In your latest work, exhibited in Winterthur, rose colours have emerged (which also fill larger fields in the spaces of the drawings/paintings[3]), and I also saw coloured oil pastel drawings there for the first time… What is your relationship to colour in general?

SB: I only did black and white drawings in my early years. I used all kinds of black and white techniques (except charcoal and pencil), oil pastels, gouache, ink, ink and acrylic. Since 2008, I have also been working in colour, mostly using gouache. It’s like an orchestra; new instruments and new tones are added, and the sound spectrum is expanded.

 [2] Silvia Bächli participated in the 53rd Venice Biennale’s Swiss pavilion in 2009 with her installation ‘Das(to Inger Christensen)’. It was on view from 6 June to 22 November 2009.

[3] These gouache pictures are the Farbfelds, a body of artworks that began in 2022.

Silvia Bächli: Blue Bands ╱ 2020 ╱ pencil and gouache on paper ╱ 144,5×204.5 cm ╱ Room 8 ╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

Room 6 ╱Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

BK: It seems to me that the act of selecting is an essential part of your work… At your exhibition in Winterthur, a room showcased pictures from a twenty-year interval from 1983 to 2003, one from each year. Could you please talk about the selection process?

SB: My work is an approach to something I don’t know exactly and only find out by doing. So, I need a lot of attempts and wrong turns before I arrive at something I’m satisfied with.

You can hardly make any corrections when working on paper — but there’s another paper on the pile, another attempt. I work from moments that have remained in my memory. I start by putting the first lines on the paper, so there is a vague idea at the beginning, but I am happy to be taken into ‘new territory’.

My working method is as follows: I colour sheets of paper without slowing down and avoid making an immediate judgement as to whether it is good or bad. Only the next day, with a bit of distance, do I look at the drawings very critically and throw a lot of them away. The good ones and the ones that annoy/disturb me hang on the wall. What happens to them over the next few weeks? Will they change? How do they relate to each other?

I have an “A” box for the good drawings. The “C” drawings end up in the bin, and a “B” box for doubtful cases (could be “A” or “C”). All sheets with technical mistakes are thrown away (e.g., too much water in the brush results in a puddle in the wrong place, or the colour has been painted over too often and is, therefore, boggy). A jumble of too many ideas on one sheet is also thrown away — it lacks clarity. And sheets that know too much are thrown away. Good drawings are plain, simple, and reduced to the essentials; they have breadth.

1:10 Model of the exhibition at Kunst Museum Winterthur╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

BK: You work mostly on paper…what does this material mean to you?

SB: Perhaps I have already answered this: working on paper requires no preparatory work, such as priming the canvas. Paper is ideal for trying things out. (As long as you have plenty of paper available). I need paper for book printing, so I order it from wholesalers once a year.

BK: What do you think about the relationship between image and text? Why do you insert words into the fabric of the image?

SB: Pictures float through my head while I’m working — but also words and sounds I hear — or my back feels tired — or an insect dances through the room — everything can be put on paper.

Silvia Bächli: Lidschlag 1983–2003 ╱ Room 7 ╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

Silvia Bächli: Lidschlag 1983–2003 ╱ Room 7 ╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

BK: Photographs of your cardboard models play a crucial role in the exhibition catalogue. What is the role of the models? Have you made similar models before every exhibition?

SB: If I’m invited to an exhibition, I first ask for a floor plan. Then, I visit the room(s). What is the light, the floor, and the doors/passages like? How do you walk through the rooms as a visitor?

Back home, I usually build a simple model out of paper and cardboard on a scale of 1:10. I also print out the drawings on this scale. They are my actors. With a few simple changes, they play a different part. This way, I can set up the whole exhibition and rearrange it until I am sure that this combination and choreography is spot on.

At the same time, I hang the originals on the wall, test the distances and heights, and incorporate good combinations into the model — so I alternate between the originals on the wall and the reduction in the model.

The model and the photos of the model serve as a memory aid so I can compare different exhibition ideas with each other.

Once I have found my choreography for the exhibition, I measure all the distances and heights of the drawings and take these hanging plans to the museum to set them up.

Exhibition view: Silvia Bächli ╱ 2023 ╱ Museum Villa Langmatt, Baden ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

Exhibition view: Silvia Bächli ╱ 2023 ╱ Museum Villa Langmatt, Baden ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist

BK: How does the space you work in affect your art? Are the works always created in the studio? Which was your favourite studio space?

SB: Spaces are the basis of my work. Space and drawings together are the work. The walls are part of the work.

I always make the drawings in the studio. I need very little: a room with light, a table and a chair, water, paint, brushes, pens and a pile of paper. I need tape and pins to hang them up.

And, yes, of course, the space influences the work. In the Langmatt Museum, a 19th-century villa in Baden, I had a historic room with a skylight, fabric-covered grey walls and a mahogany floor.[4] I was allowed to borrow a piece of grey fabric wallpaper for the preparations — but it wasn’t until I was there that it became clear that my colourful fields and the imposing room were a good match.

The same drawings are now hanging in the exhibition at the Centro Botín in Santander, in a neutral 21st-century museum venue with light beige walls — it looks completely different.

BK: Do you need solitude in the studio? Do you have a studio ritual?

SB: I work alone in the studio. Nobody can help me there, so I don’t have any assistants. There is no special ritual. I come into the studio, choose the paper and the size I want to start with and get started.

BK
: What does white evoke for you, the emptiness of the sheet, the immaculacy of the wall?

SB: Go on and try!

[4] Silvia Bächli’s exhibition 2023 was on view from 26 February to 29 May at the Langmatt Museum in Baden.

Room 2 with works from 2018 and 2019 ╱ Silvia Bächli: They’ve Turned into Each Other. Which Is Which? ╱ Kunst Museum Winterthur ╱ 2024 ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

Silvia Bächli: Untitled ╱ 2019 ╱ gouache on paper ╱ 44×62 cm ╱ Photo: Serge Hasenböhler

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Special thanks to Konrad Bitterli and Kunst Museum Winterthur; Markus Stegmann and Museum Villa Langmatt; Lars Müller Publishers Zürich; Galleria Raffaella Cortese, Milano; Peter Freeman Inc. New York; Maisterravalbuena, Madrid.

For more, please visit: www.silviabaechli.ch

 

Silvia Bächli: From Lidschlag ╱ 1985 ╱ acrylic and felt-tip pen on paper ╱ 30.4×42.8 cm ╱ Photo courtesy of the artist